The memories format is atrocious … get rid of it completely and let something actually happen during the game.
Feels like you’re playing a game where nothing actually happens.
Zelda games’ story are now static, hindered by the open world format. There’s no sense of progression at all.
Go back to the Metroidvania roots and design and use the format to tell a dynamic story FFS
Both.... both styles are great. These were amazing Zeldas... hope we can someday go back to stuff like this. Botw and Totk's artstyle fall flat in my opinion.
Nah… it’s the Xbox One situation all over again. There’s no amount of backtracking you can do to fix reality. You wanted to F your customers initially. If people didn’t complain you would have had it your way.
Just like when people gave the finger to Don Mattrick…. unity is out
All the dungeons are some of the WORST in the series. And I know you’re talking about the Fire Temple Ollie ….
And I’m glad that they hype is dying down, the narrative is changing and most people are seeing this game for what it really is … a disappointing step in the wrong direction for the series.
The more people realize it, the sooner we can get Zelda back into form.
@Not_Soos I honestly don't think so. Luigi's Mansion 1 is a bad way to show your new system. Not because its a bad game. But because its a really short game. It's a release to just get it out of the way. That would be like trying to port Pikmin 1 as the cavalry for a new system. I think they must be trying to add the first one if they are taking this long to release LM2 HD.... I read summer 2024?
They should have added the first one too ... Luigi's Mansion 1 & 2 HD ... so we could have the trilogy on Switch.
I remember 2 wasn't so good compared to the other ones. The segmented format for portable gaming didn't make the game any favors. It was still good though.... but its the lesser one of the three.
A great epic 30-adrenaline-filled-minutes finale in a 200 hour slog fest.
Give me more of those final minutes in a traditional Zelda game please.
It feels like a chore when, to reach the epic good short parts of a game, you have to play hundreds of hours.
The open-world format lends to this, as there is no real story progression that affects the narrative of the world mid-game... leaving you with only the epic beginning - 190 hour filler middle - epic finale.
There's no dynamic story moments that affect the game or your journey.
@Edd-O well, at least we did get Pilotwings for the 3DS, two Excitebike games on the Wii, and two Starfox games on WiiU and 3DS … But I get what you mean. Those IPs are the neglected treasures in Nintendo’s vault.
You can add to your list:
-Punch Out,
-Wario Land,
-Kid Icarus
-Rhythm Heaven (a bit)
-Earthbound
-Advance Wars (remake doesn’t count as a revival until we get a new game)
Also, F-Zero GX is one of the greatest racers of all time, period.
Nintendo, bring it back now!
No bumping in co-op? That’s a major turnoff. That’s what made the other games amazingly fun as multiplayer if you learnt to embrace the chaos that ensued.
I’m all in for the game… but now I start to think I’ll play this alone. What’s the point of co-op, either online or offline, if you can’t even interact with each other?
@Ogbert you can tell me where I’m being directly disrespectful to anyone here, not a single commenter. Just because my opinion doesn’t align with yours doesn’t mean I’m being disrespectful to anyone. And no, it wasn’t to me, it was to his own team in front of every attendee. And, again, no…. If we are talking about quality I can dish my opinion just like you. No, the art direction is crap and it affects the gameplay as it just clutters the screen with whatever flatland unstylish junk the director decided to add, as simple as that. We are done here, won’t waste any more of my time.
@Ogbert nah.. i don’t have to be respectful towards the developer for a single reason… I met part of the team at some conventions and one person in particular is a total douchebag.
And I’ve got some dirt on the higher ups via some of the workers there on the work conditions, abuse and treatment of the team, which I won’t mention now, but will when/if there’s another release.
This is unrelated to the game’s “quality” but is worth mentioning as a reason not to defend neither the studio nor the game.
@Ogbert one thing is comparing it to Madworld just because it has black and white visuals, which is oversimplifying things… but the art direction is totally terrible. Everything is in the same plane where you need depth for a game like this to work. The art direction is terrible, stuff get muddled with other stuff, things look cheaply drawn and animated. I’d argue about the “lot of effort” … or at least a game for a really amateur studio. Maybe shovelware wasn’t the correct term… I’d rather say… a $2 garbage bin game. I’d argue that, yes, the idea of a good game was there, but next time, fire your art director and get some designer with actual talent or studies.
@MeloMan lol, you mean that game where the art director looks like he doesn’t have basic notions of design or depth? That game where everything looks in the same depth field in a b/w environment with stuff that looks drawn by a 5 year old? Yes, anything is better than Patobox, it’s one of the worst indies I’ve ever played if not THE… it’s the very definition of shovelware.
@olliemar28 Out of topic, but have you guys already reported that Nintendo blocked international transactions in the eShop out of the country the credit card was issued in?
Nobody can buy in the Argentina shop at insane low prices anymore
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Re: Random: Footage Of Nintendo's Weird Zelda: Majora's Mask E3 Event Resurfaces
Best Zelda game ever… along Ocarina of Time and Links Awakening.
Cut the open world crap and go back to these style of Zelda games!
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Director (Sort Of) Explains What Happened To Sheikah Tech
“And he went back to his home planet”
The worst kind of answer 🙄🙄🙄
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Actraiser
Wow… still 50/50 at 819 votes? This is like watching really ugly horse races
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Actraiser
Wow… a 50-50 with 144 votes? That’s a really close competition
Re: Soapbox: TOTK's Ganondorf Is Great, But Zelda Needs To Do More With Its Villain
The memories format is atrocious … get rid of it completely and let something actually happen during the game.
Feels like you’re playing a game where nothing actually happens.
Zelda games’ story are now static, hindered by the open world format. There’s no sense of progression at all.
Go back to the Metroidvania roots and design and use the format to tell a dynamic story FFS
Re: Nintendo President Reiterates Switch Software Support Into FY24/25
Hopefully Switch 2 comes in 2025 and not 2024
Re: Random: Making "Miyamoto Happy" Isn't The Goal Of Development, According To Pikmin 4's Creators
Someone Insert Miyamoto Thumbs down gif
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Yoshi's Cookie
Yum yum… cookies!!!
Re: Switch Online Exclusive F-Zero 99 Adding Five More Tracks This Week
@KnightsTemplar classic F-Zero has got nothing on modern F-Zero.
Also in a live service game you play the same track over and over with a low percentage of winning or making progress
Different experiences
Re: Poll: Do You Prefer Zelda: Wind Waker HD's Bloom Lighting Or The "Flat" OG?
Both.... both styles are great. These were amazing Zeldas... hope we can someday go back to stuff like this.
Botw and Totk's artstyle fall flat in my opinion.
Re: Nintendo Announces Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Event For Tetris 99
You’ve made me a slave out of Tetris-99 themes Nintendo 😣
Terrible selection of songs for this theme though
Re: Poll: Have You Come First In F-Zero 99 Yet?
1st only one time..... but the game is getting more and more aggresive each time
Re: Unity Reveals New Pricing Model For Runtime Fee Policy
Nah… it’s the Xbox One situation all over again. There’s no amount of backtracking you can do to fix reality. You wanted to F your customers initially. If people didn’t complain you would have had it your way.
Just like when people gave the finger to Don Mattrick…. unity is out
Re: Soapbox: FOMO Nearly Ruined Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom For Me
All the dungeons are some of the WORST in the series. And I know you’re talking about the Fire Temple Ollie ….
And I’m glad that they hype is dying down, the narrative is changing and most people are seeing this game for what it really is … a disappointing step in the wrong direction for the series.
The more people realize it, the sooner we can get Zelda back into form.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's Game Boy Advance Library Next Week
@Altaria_97 @Mana_knight please guys, don’t confuse Metroidvania level design with the travesty of open worlds. They are completely different things.
One follows a well crafted recipe… the other one just throws whatever ingredients they can find and expect to cook whatever stew comes up.
Re: Best F-Zero Games Of All Time
@HotGoomba this comment breaks my heart ... no... just no :/
Re: Best F-Zero Games Of All Time
GX is the king … but as someone above me said… there just isn’t a single bad F-Zero game … and that’s saying something that not many IPs have
Re: Video: Luigi's Mansion 2 HD Side-By-Side Graphics Comparison (Switch & 3DS)
@Not_Soos I honestly don't think so. Luigi's Mansion 1 is a bad way to show your new system. Not because its a bad game. But because its a really short game. It's a release to just get it out of the way. That would be like trying to port Pikmin 1 as the cavalry for a new system.
I think they must be trying to add the first one if they are taking this long to release LM2 HD.... I read summer 2024?
Re: Video: Luigi's Mansion 2 HD Side-By-Side Graphics Comparison (Switch & 3DS)
They should have added the first one too ... Luigi's Mansion 1 & 2 HD ... so we could have the trilogy on Switch.
I remember 2 wasn't so good compared to the other ones. The segmented format for portable gaming didn't make the game any favors.
It was still good though.... but its the lesser one of the three.
Re: Takaya Imamura Expresses His Love For F-Zero 99, Awaits 'Revival Of The IP'
I get all the points in this conversation. I'm one of the biggest F-Zero fans out there and I believe everyone is correct.
-Is the game amazing? YES... its pretty fun.
-Does it feel like Nintendo is holding the IP at gunpoint forcing us to play this or they will bury the corpse again? YES... it feels like it.
-Is it a monkeypaw wish? YES it is... but even monkeypaw wishes had always some sort of good & bad consequence.
-Should they gauge interest with this game? MAYBE NOT... because SNES F-Zero is a completely different experience from modern F-Zero like GX.
-Should everyone play this to revive the IP? ABSOLUTELY
-Will Nintendo take this as if we want more SNES F-Zero instead of GX? SADLY YES
Re: F-ZERO 99 Turns The Classic Racer Into A 99-Player Battle Royale, On NSO Today
Dreams crushed… why oh why?
Why Nintendo? Why do you keep neglecting modern F-Zero?
Why can’t we have something akin to GX?
Free it from the SNES chains of captivity!!!
Fine… I’ll play just because I feel the IP is at gunpoint right now
“Play this or we shoot the hostage!!”
Just like you did to Advance Wars 😡😡😡
Re: Nintendo Direct September 2023: Time, Where To Watch, Our Predictions
Please let the F-Zero leak be true … please, a new game
Re: Talking Point: Which Classic Cartoons Deserve The Shredder's Revenge Treatment?
@Not_Soos yeah but that’s not a beat ‘‘em up like shredder’s revenge as far as I have seen…. Is it?
I don’t know much about the game though
Re: Talking Point: Which Classic Cartoons Deserve The Shredder's Revenge Treatment?
Thundercats would be fun or The Last Airbender
The question we should be asking is … which franchise should be getting the SNES Animaniacs treatment 😉
Re: New Nintendo Joystick Patent Could Spell The End For Future Drift Issues
Making patents when all 3rd party devs have accomplished this years ago… without reinventing the wheel.
Nintendo, THIS is your BIGGEST fail.
Re: Feature: Meet The 'Arzette' Dev Salvaging The Zelda CD-i Games' "Genuine Potential"
@Thief here you can play fan-made remasters of Wand of Gamelon and Faces of Evil for PC
http://www.reddit.com/r/videogames/comments/kp8ral/zelda_cdi_remaster_download_link/
And here is a Gameboy Remake of the third one: Zelda’s Adventure if you’re into that:
http://john-lay.itch.io/zeldas-adventure
Re: Castlevania: Nocturne Gets Main Trailer Ahead Of Netflix Launch This Month
Ufff can’t wait!!! The first one was amazing and the animation excellent.
Let’s see how this leads to Symphony of the Night
And that music!
Re: Review: Thunder Ray - Imperfect But Beautiful, Bloody, 'Punch-Out!!'-Inspired Pugilism
Good, still way better than the other mediocre animal Punch-Out clone out there.
The art style and animation look great.
Will surely be checking this one out.
Re: Video: It's Finally Time To Talk About Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom's Ending
A great epic 30-adrenaline-filled-minutes finale in a 200 hour slog fest.
Give me more of those final minutes in a traditional Zelda game please.
It feels like a chore when, to reach the epic good short parts of a game, you have to play hundreds of hours.
The open-world format lends to this, as there is no real story progression that affects the narrative of the world mid-game... leaving you with only the epic beginning - 190 hour filler middle - epic finale.
There's no dynamic story moments that affect the game or your journey.
Re: New Interview With Zelda Boss Suggests There Are No Plans For TOTK DLC
They are considering using the SAME world a THIRD TIME???!!!!!!!
&)&64&@&5(?;&7{#^£} !!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Working On F-Zero GX Taught Producer Toshihiro Nagoshi How To "Satisfy A Fanbase"
@Edd-O why not? They both were excellent games in the EXCITE franchise
Re: Working On F-Zero GX Taught Producer Toshihiro Nagoshi How To "Satisfy A Fanbase"
@Edd-O well, at least we did get Pilotwings for the 3DS, two Excitebike games on the Wii, and two Starfox games on WiiU and 3DS … But I get what you mean. Those IPs are the neglected treasures in Nintendo’s vault.
You can add to your list:
-Punch Out,
-Wario Land,
-Kid Icarus
-Rhythm Heaven (a bit)
-Earthbound
-Advance Wars (remake doesn’t count as a revival until we get a new game)
Also, F-Zero GX is one of the greatest racers of all time, period.
Nintendo, bring it back now!
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Sea Of Stars
Both are good
Re: Square Enix Adding 11 Final Fantasy XVI Songs To Theatrhythm Final Bar Line
Yeah! I bet on this horse months ago! Glad they added FF16!
Re: Round Up: The Previews Are In For Super Mario Bros. Wonder
No bumping in co-op? That’s a major turnoff. That’s what made the other games amazingly fun as multiplayer if you learnt to embrace the chaos that ensued.
I’m all in for the game… but now I start to think I’ll play this alone. What’s the point of co-op, either online or offline, if you can’t even interact with each other?
Re: Poll: What Did You Think Of The Super Mario Bros. Wonder Direct Showcase?
I’m glad we didn’t get an amiibo. I’m running out of shelf space for them
Re: 'Thunder Ray' Looks Like The Perfect Spiritual Successor To Punch-Out
@Ogbert you can tell me where I’m being directly disrespectful to anyone here, not a single commenter. Just because my opinion doesn’t align with yours doesn’t mean I’m being disrespectful to anyone.
And no, it wasn’t to me, it was to his own team in front of every attendee.
And, again, no…. If we are talking about quality I can dish my opinion just like you. No, the art direction is crap and it affects the gameplay as it just clutters the screen with whatever flatland unstylish junk the director decided to add, as simple as that.
We are done here, won’t waste any more of my time.
Re: Turok 3: Shadow Of Oblivion Remaster Announced For Switch
Wow... that's a terrific remaster for a N64 game while keeping the retro feel. Wish there were more like this one!
Now imagine Perfect Dark like this
Re: 'Thunder Ray' Looks Like The Perfect Spiritual Successor To Punch-Out
@Ogbert nah.. i don’t have to be respectful towards the developer for a single reason… I met part of the team at some conventions and one person in particular is a total douchebag.
And I’ve got some dirt on the higher ups via some of the workers there on the work conditions, abuse and treatment of the team, which I won’t mention now, but will when/if there’s another release.
This is unrelated to the game’s “quality” but is worth mentioning as a reason not to defend neither the studio nor the game.
Re: 'Thunder Ray' Looks Like The Perfect Spiritual Successor To Punch-Out
@Ogbert one thing is comparing it to Madworld just because it has black and white visuals, which is oversimplifying things… but the art direction is totally terrible. Everything is in the same plane where you need depth for a game like this to work.
The art direction is terrible, stuff get muddled with other stuff, things look cheaply drawn and animated. I’d argue about the “lot of effort” … or at least a game for a really amateur studio.
Maybe shovelware wasn’t the correct term… I’d rather say… a $2 garbage bin game.
I’d argue that, yes, the idea of a good game was there, but next time, fire your art director and get some designer with actual talent or studies.
Re: 'Thunder Ray' Looks Like The Perfect Spiritual Successor To Punch-Out
@MeloMan lol, you mean that game where the art director looks like he doesn’t have basic notions of design or depth? That game where everything looks in the same depth field in a b/w environment with stuff that looks drawn by a 5 year old?
Yes, anything is better than Patobox, it’s one of the worst indies I’ve ever played if not THE… it’s the very definition of shovelware.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Mega Man 7
@olliemar28 Out of topic, but have you guys already reported that Nintendo blocked international transactions in the eShop out of the country the credit card was issued in?
Nobody can buy in the Argentina shop at insane low prices anymore
Re: Capcom Is Releasing An Offline Version Of Mega Man X DiVE
Good… I’ll play it as I’ve played every MM game in existence. So, does this means MMX9 soon????!!!!
Re: Talking Point: Zelda: TOTK Isn't A Shoo-In For GOTY 2023, And That's A Good Thing
Hope it doesn’t win so we don’t throw any more beans into Nintendo’s and Fujibayashi’s ego jar so we can get Zelda back into form again.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Pokémon Stadium
Why are we combining PAL and NA?
The American box art is slightly different from Europe
Re: Video: The N64 Kart Racer That Deserves To Be On Switch
We need this… and DK 64 in NSO …. Only then, with the aid of Rare Replay, will we have a Rare complete collection.
The DS version was really fun too
Re: Video: The 'Fake Game Boy' That Costs $10 And Contains 200 Games
Ohh… I thought it was identical on the outside to a Gameboy Color and thought “finally something I can use as a Gameboy Mini!”
Also I love the randomness of these games, it’s so fun to have some beers with a friend and playing whatever abomination we can find
Re: Pokémon Scarlet And Violet's DLC Gets A Physical Release On Switch
This practice should just be considered an environmental crime 😒
Re: Soapbox: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom's Thunderous Callback To The Great Sky Island Is Perfect
I don’t get what was special about these islands … they were the same as any other ones but with a storm. 🤔
Re: Japanese Charts: Pikmin 4 Retains Its Crown For The Third Week In A Row
Great game but it felt like it dragged in some places. I don't know, maybe its just me but 40+ hours for a Pikmin game is just too much.
Pikmin 3 is still my favorite though.